
Working Historians is a podcast series that showcases the work and careers of historians in a wide variety of career fields. We hope to introduce history students and the general public to the career paths available to people who study history, introduce and promote historians to students and the public, and showcase the work that historians do on a regular basis. Hosts Rob Denning and Jimmy Fennessy can be reached at workinghistorians@gmail.com.
Episodes

Friday Oct 06, 2023
Friday Oct 06, 2023
Jazlyn Sanderson is the Director of the Museum of Native American History in Bentonville, Arkansas. In this episode, Jazlyn talks to Southern New Hampshire University’s David Buresh about the benefits of having a history degree and how to get into the museum field. David and Jazlyn go into different types of internships within the Museum of Native American History, as well as how to make yourself stand out in the industry overall.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Sunday Sep 17, 2023
Sunday Sep 17, 2023
Get out your parchment and quill, it’s Constitution Day! In this episode, Rob will discuss the historical origins of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, how legal and popular conceptions of the Amendment have changed over the decades, and how the Amendment is relevant to our present political sphere.
Dr. Denning is the Associate Dean for Southern New Hampshire University’s online graduate and undergraduate history programs, the host of the Working Historians podcast series, and producer of the Passion and Practicality podcast series.

Friday Sep 01, 2023
Friday Sep 01, 2023
Karen Kincaid Brady is the Programming Director for the Neill-Cochran House Museum in Austin, Texas. In this episode, Karen talks to Southern New Hampshire University’s Callie Cook about the value of building your network, career opportunities in history, and creative ways to connect and build experiences with colleagues.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Friday Aug 18, 2023
Friday Aug 18, 2023
Karl McKinnon is the Assistant Director of Operations and Chief Financial Officer at the Schiele Museum of Natural History and Planetarium in Gastonia, North Carolina. Today Karl speaks with Southern New Hampshire University’s Peter Bartel about how to make yourself stand out when applying for careers in the museum world, the importance of exuding passion in your work, and the value of having experience outside of the classroom.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Friday Aug 04, 2023
Friday Aug 04, 2023
Buster Ratliff is the Director of Operations for the Cultural Foundation of the Texas Panhandle & Panhandle-Plains Museum on the campus of West Texas A&M University in Canyon, Texas. In this episode, Buster talks with Southern New Hampshire University’s Callie Cook about the value of building your network and understanding company values.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Friday Jul 21, 2023
Friday Jul 21, 2023
Bonnie Barnes is the Executive Director for Keys History and Discovery Center in Florida. In this episode, Bonnie talks to Southern New Hampshire University’s Callie Cook about informational interviewing, company research, and the different career paths one can explore with a history degree.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Friday Jun 30, 2023
Friday Jun 30, 2023
Tim Garrity has served as a hospital administrator and the director of the Mount Desert Island Historical Society, from which he recently retired. We have talked to Tim before about his organization, but this time we discuss his view of the liberal arts in general, what liberal arts degree holders bring to various industries, and what liberal arts students should learn to market themselves better for different career paths. For more information on Tim and the Mount Desert Island Historical Society, listen to our earlier conversation here and learn more about the Society here.
This episode was originally broadcast on Southern New Hampshire University’s Passion and Practicality podcast feed.

Friday Jun 09, 2023
Should I Go to Graduate School (MA or PhD) for History?
Friday Jun 09, 2023
Friday Jun 09, 2023
Rob keeps the gang together to answer the question often posed by history majors: Should I go to graduate school in history? Eric Greisinger, Allison Millward, CB Repass, Matt Schandler, Ryan Tripp, and Rob discuss the magnitude and consequences of the decision to pursue master’s or doctoral degrees in history, share some of their grad school experiences, and muse about whether or not their degrees were worth the time and energy.
Speaker timeline:
01:16 - Matt Schandler
12:21 - Rob Denning
29:49 - CB Repass
31:21 - Ryan Tripp
33:36 - Allison Millward
36:02 - Eric Greisinger
37:26 - Allison Millward
39:49 - Eric Greisinger
40:12 - Rob Denning
41:10 - CB Repass
42:16 - Ryan Tripp
44:11 - Rob Denning
47:00 - Allison Millward
47:41 - Eric Greisinger
48:39 - Allison Millward
49:30 - Ryan Tripp
49:53 - Rob Denning
50:42 - Eric Greisinger
51:08 - Ryan Tripp
51:53 - Allison Millward
52:27 - Rob Denning

Friday Apr 28, 2023
How Do I Write a History Research Paper?
Friday Apr 28, 2023
Friday Apr 28, 2023
In this final episode of our series on how historians research and write on historical topics, the panel tackles the writing process: How do you organize your thoughts and get past that dreaded blank page?
Speaker timeline:
00:54 - Matt Schandler
06:36 - CB Repass
07:55 - Ryan Tripp
10:03 - Allison Millward
12:42 - Eric Greisinger
14:22 - Rob Denning
17:49 - Ryan Tripp
18:59 - CB Repass
20:14 - Matt Schandler
21:43 - Rob Denning

Friday Apr 14, 2023
How Do I Develop a Thesis Statement?
Friday Apr 14, 2023
Friday Apr 14, 2023
In this fifth episode of our series on how historians research and write on historical topics, the panel tackles thesis statements: What are they, why they are important, and how do you develop them?
Speaker timeline:
00:51 - Matt Schandler
04:56 - Eric Greisinger
05:17 - Rob Denning
06:05 - CB Repass
06:15 - Rob Denning
06:38 - Eric Greisinger
06:44 - Rob Denning
07:26 - Ryan Tripp
08:15 - CB Repass
08:49 - Allison Millward
09:46 - Rob Denning
11:07 - Eric Greisinger
11:39 - Rob Denning

Friday Mar 31, 2023
How Do I Find Primary Sources for a History Research Project?
Friday Mar 31, 2023
Friday Mar 31, 2023
In this fourth episode of our series on how historians research and write on historical topics, the panel explains how they identify relevant primary sources that will help them go beyond the existing secondary source literature. We will discuss different ways to search for relevant and useful primary sources, how to determine which primary sources might be more useful or important than others, and the historian’s ethical responsibility to be familiar with as much of the primary source base as possible.
Speaker timeline:
02:15 - CB Repass
04:14 - Eric Greisinger
05:11 - Ryan Tripp
06:00 - Matt Schandler
10:40 - Rob Denning
13:23 - Matt Schandler
15:20 - Allison Millward
17:18 - Eric Greisinger
17:32 - Rob Denning
19:08 - CB Repass
21:11 - Ryan Tripp
21:34 - Rob Denning
22:28 - Eric Greisinger

Friday Mar 17, 2023
How Do I Find Secondary Sources for a History Research Project?
Friday Mar 17, 2023
Friday Mar 17, 2023
In this third episode of our series on how historians research and write on historical topics, the panel explains how they tackle the potentially vast body of existing secondary sources that will help them provide context on the research project. We discuss different ways to search for secondary sources, how to determine which secondary sources might be more useful or important than others, and the historian’s ethical responsibility to be familiar with the entire existing literature on the topic.
Speaker timeline:
02:42 - CB Repass
03:20 - Matt Schandler
07:31 - Allison Millward
08:14 - Eric Greisinger
09:11 - Matt Schandler
11:08 - Allison Millward
11:45 - CB Repass
13:07 - Allison Millward
14:14 - Ryan Tripp
15:02 - Eric Greisinger
15:21 - CB Repass
15:34 - Rob Denning
18:13 - Matt Schandler
20:27 - Ryan Tripp
21:35 - Rob Denning

Friday Mar 03, 2023
How Do I Develop a Historical Research Question?
Friday Mar 03, 2023
Friday Mar 03, 2023
In this second episode of our series on how historians research and write on historical topics, the panel tackles the importance and selection of a good research question, which will guide the historian throughout the research process.
Speaker timeline:
01:00 - CB Repass
01:48 - Eric Greisinger
02:13 - CB Repass
02:28 - Matt Schandler
03:09 - Allison Millward
04:48 - Rob Denning
05:55 - CB Repass
06:15 - Ryan Tripp
06:51 - Rob Denning
08:14 - Matt Schandler
11:53 - CB Repass
12:00 - Rob Denning

Friday Feb 17, 2023
How Do I Find a History Research Topic?
Friday Feb 17, 2023
Friday Feb 17, 2023
With this episode we are launching a new series on how historians research and write on historical topics, starting with the selection of a research topic and ending with the writing process. In this first episode, a panel of historians discuss the initial selection of a research topic.
Speaker timeline:
00:58 - CB Repass
01:58 - Ryan Tripp
02:48 - Allison Millward
04:31 - Eric Greisinger
05:31 - Allison Millward
05:36 - Rob Denning
06:10 - CB Repass
06:47 - Eric Greisinger
07:10 - Ryan Tripp
07:51 - Matthew Schandler
11:05 - Rob Denning
13:24 - Matthew Schandler
15:10 - Rob Denning
16:05 - Matthew Schandler

Friday Feb 03, 2023
Legal Careers for Historians: Mathew Merz - Conflicts Analyst, Akerman LLP
Friday Feb 03, 2023
Friday Feb 03, 2023
Mathew Merz earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in History from Southern New Hampshire University in 2020 and works as Conflicts Analyst at Akerman LLP. In this episode, Mathew discusses the research, writing, and analytical skills that he learned as a history major which have been particularly useful to his job as a researcher for a law firm.
Recommendations and Links:
Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind (Random House, 2014) - recommended by Mathew Merz
Derry Girls, created by Lisa McGee, Netflix - recommended by Jimmy
“American Historical Association Action Alert Concerning Proposed History Standards for Virginia (February 2023)” - recommended by Rob
David Gilbert, “Inside a US Neo-Nazi Homeschool Network With Thousands of Members,” Vice News, January 29, 2023
Nilanjana Roy, “How Teen Vogue Got Political,” Financial Times, January 24, 2017

Friday Jan 20, 2023
Friday Jan 20, 2023
Nina Thomas is the manager of the Westerville History Museum, which is part of the public library system in Westerville, Ohio. In this episode, Nina discusses her academic and professional background, life as a museum manager, the nature of the museum’s public outreach efforts, and what a museum manager might look for in job applicants.
Recommendations:
Clint Smith, How the Word is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America (Little, Brown, 2021) - recommended by Nina
Philomena Cunk - recommended by Nina
Jennifer Schuessler, “As Historians Gather, No Truce in the History Wars,” New York Times, January 8, 2023 - recommended by Rob

Friday Jan 06, 2023
Friday Jan 06, 2023
In this episode, Rob talks to Deb Gogliettino, Associate Dean for online Business Academics at Southern New Hampshire University, about the ways that her undergraduate degree in history has helped her business-oriented career, which included positions in human resources, business administration, and academics. We also discuss how history students can market themselves to non-academic employers.

Friday Dec 16, 2022
Friday Dec 16, 2022
In this episode, Jimmy and Rob talk to Paul Witcover, Associate Dean for the online Master of Fine Arts in Creative Writing program at Southern New Hampshire University, about his recent novel, Lincolnstein, and the skills and responsibilities required of authors writing historical fiction.
Recommendations:
Paul Witcover, Lincolnstein (PS Publishing, 2021) - recommended by Rob
Victor Klemperer, I Will Bear Witness (Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1998) - recommended by Paul Witcover
Meet Me in the Bathroom, Will Lovelance, Dylan Southern, and Andrew Cross, dirs., (2022) - recommended by Jimmy
The Civil War, Ken Burns, dir. (1990) - recommended by Rob

Friday Dec 02, 2022
Friday Dec 02, 2022
In this second episode on the Black Death, the Spanish Flu, and Covid-19, Rob Denning, James Fennessy, and Scotty Edler discuss the long-term political, social, economic, and cultural consequences of the plague and the flu, and they attempt to use those precedents to predict the long-term effects of Covid-19 on our own future lives.

Friday Nov 18, 2022
Friday Nov 18, 2022
During the next two episodes, Rob and James talk to Scotty Edler about his research into the causes and consequences of three major disease epidemics: the Black Death, the Spanish Flu, and Covid-19. Here we discuss the historical contexts of each disease and the lessons learned from each outbreak.

Sunday Jun 19, 2022
Juneteenth: The Second Independence Day
Sunday Jun 19, 2022
Sunday Jun 19, 2022
In this episode, Rob presents his research into quick questions from his employer's communications office regarding the history of the Juneteenth Holiday. He does not provide quick answers.

Friday Jun 17, 2022
Working Historians Roundtable: Watergate
Friday Jun 17, 2022
Friday Jun 17, 2022
On the fiftieth anniversary of the Watergate break-in, Rob and six fellow historians discuss the international and domestic political contexts leading up to the event, the break-in and subsequent investigations, and the short- and long-term consequences of Watergate on American political and constitutional history.
Thanks to historians Mike Green, Eric Morgenson, Ryan Tripp, Adam Lehman, and Joel Tscherne for participating.

Friday Feb 18, 2022
Careers in History: Rob Denning - Associate Dean for History, SNHU
Friday Feb 18, 2022
Friday Feb 18, 2022
In this episode, re-broadcast from the Passion and Practicality podcast series, Rob discusses the skills that students learn while in pursuit of a history degree that will be valuable on the job market after graduation (even in fields that don't include the word "history"). He also describes some of the ways that students can prepare for the job market before graduation.
Special bonus feature: To see Rob present this on camera, click here!

Friday Nov 05, 2021
Friday Nov 05, 2021
John Bertland is the Digital Librarian and Content Specialist for the Presidio Trust in San Francisco, California. In this episode, we discuss John’s academic and professional background, his work at the Presidio Trust, and we end with a story about mules.
Recommendations
Harwood P. Hinton and Jerry Thompson, Courage Above All Things: General John Ellis Wool and the U.S. Military, 1812-1863 (Norman: University of Oklahoma Press, 2020) - recommended by John Bertland
“Exclusion: The Presidio’s Role in World War II Japanese American Internment” at the Presidio Officers’ Club, recommended by Jimmy
Lizzie Johnson, Paradise: One Town’s Struggle to Survive an American Wildfire (New York: Penguin Random House, 2021), recommended by Rob

Friday Sep 17, 2021
Constitution Day 2021: Elections, Protests, and Transfers of Power
Friday Sep 17, 2021
Friday Sep 17, 2021
It’s Constitution Day, and we are celebrating with a roundtable discussion of elections, protests, and the transfer of political power in the context of the Constitution of the United States by a panel of historians including Natalie Sweet, Ryan Tripp, and Joel Tscherne. Associate Dean Robert Denning hosts the presentation. Listeners can access this presentation, and Constitution Day podcasts from previous years, on the Working Historians Podbean page, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, and any other podcast app. Constitution Day and Citizenship Day is an American federal observance recognizing the adoption of the U.S. Constitution and those who have become U.S. citizens by birth or naturalization. It is normally observed Sept. 17, the day the U.S. Constitutional Convention signed the Constitution in 1787 in Philadelphia.